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= Depin spyware?=
= Deepin spyware?=
The accusations from 2014 of Depin being a spyware has been debunked. Depin is completely safe, it was just some light telemetry that has been removed since then. Thus, it is now safe to use.
The accusations from 2014 of Depin being a spyware has been debunked. Depin is completely safe, it was just some light telemetry that has been removed since then. Thus, it is now safe to use.
[[User:Linuxed|Linuxed]] ([[User talk:Linuxed|talk]]) 06:04, 25 August 2022 (CEST)
See this (2021): https://www.fosslinux.com/48103/deepin-linux-safe-spyware.htm
[[User:Aragorn|Aragorn]] ([[User talk:Aragorn|talk]]) 14:00, 05 September 2022 (CEST)
= Manjaro bad? =
Manjaro is often accused of beeing unreliable. However when asking, I've not found anyone who actually used the system who experienced one of the problems (namely AUR breakage). It seems to be an issue that occurs less often. Considering that other distributions also have issues, I would say that it's not an important problem.
Regarding the certificate: As far as I know, it only affected the website, and is thus not a problem with the system.
[[User:Aragorn|Aragorn]] ([[User talk:Aragorn|talk]]) 14:00, 05 September 2022 (CEST)
=== Moved below Arch and Gentoo  ===
Yep. Manjaro definitely has a bad record.
This shouldn't matter too much to the user, except when it comes to AUR:
the AUR assumes the user has an up-to-date Arch install, not two-weeks-delayed.
https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/ and https://github.com/arindas/manjarno justify it enough.
--[[User:Kkiot|Kkiot]] ([[User talk:Kkiot|talk]]) 21:30, 28 April 2023 (CEST)
== Move to anti-recommendations? ==
EndeavourOS (and even archinstall) pretty much fill Manjaro's functionnality.
Better use that instead; I'm considering moving Manjaro to the anti-recommendations.
--[[User:Kkiot|Kkiot]] ([[User talk:Kkiot|talk]]) 21:29, 28 April 2023 (CEST)
= Arch to be recommended? =
EndeavourOS doesn't only add an installier, but it also adds a community that is much more friendly. Arch is just not the best choice for new users, if they don't actually want to go through the installation process (without script).
Garuda adds ChaoticAUR, which makes installing linux-tkg easier (which is good for performance), and comes with zen by default (which is the next best choice).
So I added a "questionable choices" section for Arch, Debian, Gentoo, etc., to show that they are not actually bad, but you should know why you choose them.
[[User:Aragorn|Aragorn]] ([[User talk:Aragorn|talk]]) 14:00, 05 September 2022 (CEST)

Latest revision as of 20:30, 28 April 2023

Deepin spyware?

The accusations from 2014 of Depin being a spyware has been debunked. Depin is completely safe, it was just some light telemetry that has been removed since then. Thus, it is now safe to use.

Linuxed (talk) 06:04, 25 August 2022 (CEST)

See this (2021): https://www.fosslinux.com/48103/deepin-linux-safe-spyware.htm

Aragorn (talk) 14:00, 05 September 2022 (CEST)

Manjaro bad?

Manjaro is often accused of beeing unreliable. However when asking, I've not found anyone who actually used the system who experienced one of the problems (namely AUR breakage). It seems to be an issue that occurs less often. Considering that other distributions also have issues, I would say that it's not an important problem. Regarding the certificate: As far as I know, it only affected the website, and is thus not a problem with the system.

Aragorn (talk) 14:00, 05 September 2022 (CEST)

Moved below Arch and Gentoo

Yep. Manjaro definitely has a bad record. This shouldn't matter too much to the user, except when it comes to AUR: the AUR assumes the user has an up-to-date Arch install, not two-weeks-delayed.

https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/ and https://github.com/arindas/manjarno justify it enough.

--Kkiot (talk) 21:30, 28 April 2023 (CEST)

Move to anti-recommendations?

EndeavourOS (and even archinstall) pretty much fill Manjaro's functionnality. Better use that instead; I'm considering moving Manjaro to the anti-recommendations.

--Kkiot (talk) 21:29, 28 April 2023 (CEST)

Arch to be recommended?

EndeavourOS doesn't only add an installier, but it also adds a community that is much more friendly. Arch is just not the best choice for new users, if they don't actually want to go through the installation process (without script). Garuda adds ChaoticAUR, which makes installing linux-tkg easier (which is good for performance), and comes with zen by default (which is the next best choice). So I added a "questionable choices" section for Arch, Debian, Gentoo, etc., to show that they are not actually bad, but you should know why you choose them.

Aragorn (talk) 14:00, 05 September 2022 (CEST)